Sunday, October 25, 2009

"Peter And The Werewolves" Page 53

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12 comments:

Unknown said...

I hope one of the rings is Green Lantern's.

DontPanik said...

C'Mon Grandfather... Where are you? You should be there already with your shotgun loaded with silver cutlery! That'd be awesome...

THF said...

ooooooooo interesting. I think we are about to see what effect silver will have. 8D One bad case of silver poisoning coming up!

Also apparently today's word is horyley, maybe it's just be but that is sparking all sorts of images in my brain.

Anonymous said...

As a weapon a necklace isn't much, but the silver could just do the trick. Now if Peter can get it around Jon's neck that could really hurt him.

Poor Dill, having a tough time focusing on not being lunch.

Cat said...

Anything can be a weapon if you can ram it into, say, an eye socket. I wouldn't want to get close enough to a werewolf to garotte him with a necklace though :D

That was really interesting about the prairie dog language. I agree, something like "blue human" isn't innate. Plus, how would you tell? An outsider looking at humans might think language is innate, since it tends to be learnt at a very young age. As for birdsong, it does have meaning: "This is my branch!", "Predator!", "Have sex with me, I can make my feathers all puffy!" and so on lol. It's been shown that chickens have "words", even specifying between predators.

In light of that, I'd be even more worried if I were Peter. There's not really any reason to think that Jon is just telling Chubbs to stay away because he wants the boys to himself. I'd suspect that they're setting up an ambush, with Jon keeping Chubbs informed of where Peter and Dill are and what's going on!

Word: lizen. As in "Lizen to them, the children of the night: what sweet music they make" lol.

Um the Muse said...

I wonder if the amount of silver matters? Most jewelry is not made with pure silver. Instead, they use sterling silver, an alloy that is less prone to breaking (silver is too soft). OTOH, in a world where magic is real, maybe the silver will become purified as it touches werewolf skin?
Speaking of magic, my v-word (dentio) sounds like a kind of magic word: Dentio Forte! Now the boys can bite back!

Rai said...

Haha, my first thought was "Yeah, a girls room, go for the jewelry!" Lucky for the boys, it wasn't my room they busted into, I'm allergic to silver... does that make me a werewolf?!

Anonymous said...

Rings, Necklaces? Small items. Perfect. Peter puts himself out as bait and when the wolf snaps, he literally makes the monster choke on it. By throwing thammler items (earrings maybe?) right down the throat. Depending ont he earring design, it might have a sharp end to get stuck in there too.

Rubberuck said...

Small question - if the windows opened outwards, how did they swing open when Peter touched them? Just having a hard time picuring it, is all.

The jewellery is a good idea, as long as it actually is silver and not just nickel, or chrome, or the like.

And (to flog the talking undead horse), I'm starting to wish I'd paid attention in the linguistics lecture, or at least made more detailed notes. I think the point was that predator calls, while undoubtedly complex, especially in the case of mammals, are innate - no older prairie dog taught the younger prairie dogs that this sound meant human, this sound meant blue, etc. Whereas birdsong (which is learned) has no particular meaning: it may be used as a generic sexual call, but it's not actually saying anything in particular.

As I said, I really need to look up the notes.

I'm curious about how Peter plans to use the jewelerry, though - throwing it at the werewolf seems kind of wasteful, but he surely isn't planning to wrap the necklaces round his hands and hit it, is he? If he could find something long, he could wrap it round that - if only he hadn't thrown the padle away...

Darren said...

Todd -
Now THAT would be awesome.

DontPanik -
A cannon, even! Silver cutlery!

THF -
I would say you're right, THF...

daymon34 -
Hmmm...

Cat -
Wooo! Cat's a mean 'un! Being in that girl gang taught her some nasty hand-to-hand tactics!

Wow, that's cool about chickens. I had no idea.

It's funny you should mention Jon's motive for keeping Chubbs away...

Um the Muse -
Hadn't thought about that. I'm going to just say that the sorority girl the jewelry belongs to is, luckily, allergic to anything but pure silver or gold.

Rai -
AAAAAH! Run for the hills, Rai's a werewolf AND a vampire!

Anonymous -
Hmmm...

Rubberduck -
Good point, I'll address the window issue.

The horse ain't dead yet, Rubberduck!

I think you might be mis-remembering the linguistics professor. Either that, or I'm gonna have to invite him to a smack-down.

Here's innate behaviors: spiders spinning webs, since baby spiders leave as soon as they're hatched and can't learn from momma (who's usually dead and provided the kids their first snack - talk about a horror story). Animals like gazelles and giraffes running from a predator's scent, even when they were born in captivity and have never seen a predator (as is the case at the San Diego Wilderness Park, or whatever it is next to the zoo, where the lions are caged just over the hill from the other animals, but they have never seen each other). Babies smiling, because blind babies smile to show pleasure, and could not have learned from their parents.

However, language is, by its very nature, learned. With prairie dogs, there's a logic to the explanation: evolutionarily, prairie dogs predated humans. They had to have, they're much lower on the evolutionary ladder (and they were probably around North America 2 million years ago, whereas humans only got here in the previous 100,000 or so). In this case, prairie dogs HAD to have come up with a 'word' for humans when our ancestors first showed up in North America. There was no hardwired word for 'human'; some prairie dog had to have come up with an arbitrary sound, pointed the human out to other p.d.'s, and they all thought, "Oh, that's a squeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaak!"

My assumption is that any form of communication where the young are raised by the parents at least for awhile (i.e. most mammals and birds) is LEARNED communication. Behaviors and some reactions might be innate at this level, but not language (or whatever you would like to call the level of communication that prairie dogs exhibit).

Darren said...

Cat -
Wait, I thought I was going to post Jon's comment to Peter today, but I already had!

No, I can assure you, Jon wants Peter and Dill all for himself, because he's a greedy bastard, not to mention a homicidal sociopath who wants to show up his 'pack leader' by being the only one to kill a couple of human beings on Thanksgiving.

Unknown said...

Are you sure Jon just isn't in touch with his feelings?